CHARNEY HALL Old Boys Breaking News from John Mathers and Tilak Paul

 The Twain Met!

 

Well it had to happen and now it has! This first inaugural unofficial Old Boys at Charney Hall “CH” Gathering or Get Together has taken place!

 

Unfortunately there were just two attendees and due to Covid Restrictions there was no “hugging or kissing” and “we did not bring the house down” nor “did we paint the town red afterwards” and whilst we two made a lot of noise we did behave ourselves and there was no need for the Police to be called and Bouncers to be in attendance.

 

John Mathers 1967-1971 and Tilak Paul 1967-1971 Charney Hall Old Boys after 18 months of communication by email eventually met for drinks and lunch at a “Pub” in Covent Garden Central London in August of this year. You will notice in the attached and annotated circled School Pictures and in one particular picture John and Tilak are at the opposite end of the back row hence the title of this little ditty being called “The Twain Met” eventually.

 

The pictures will show that the years have been much kinder to John compared to Tilak who is still sadly “on the shelf” and “way past his sell by date” and lost all his hair whilst John has kept his.

 

Since we both left CH in July 1971 over 50 years ago this would be only the second time either of us have met each other. Our only other previous meeting being another “Pub” Meeting circa 2000-2002 . (quite clearly John and Tilak must be trainee alcoholics for always meeting in a “Pub”)

 

Tilak introduced John to the solitary customer in the Pub as the Boy who used “to bully me at School”. (Which is not actually true!)

 

The Bar Staff again were told that we attended a “Juvenile Borstal” in Grange over Sands when we were both young and that was how we knew each other though we corrected this later on as we ordered more and more drinks.

 

By way of background John is from Windermere and Tilak whilst born in Singapore is from Barrow in Furness so both very local to Grange over Sands though we both live in West London now hence the ease of meeting up. John after leaving CH went onto Sedbergh School and Tilak after leaving CH went to St Bees School again both local to CH.

 

It was wonderful for both John and Tilak to reminisce and remember happy and sad moments and times at School and share memories and recollections.

 

It’s always amusing and wonderful to recall stories and anecdotes at School. John was able to vividly recall Mr McCullagh saying when John had complained “about a matter being unfair “ Mr McCullagh standard reply was “its not meant to be fair Lad!”

 

Many CH Pupils will recall Mr Cockshot who had fingers like sausages and would invite boys to view his Train Set at home.

 

We were both able to recall the names of the various School Houses being Beacon Priory Hospice and Yewbarrow and Mr Fawcetts Humber car called OUP! or was it “OOP” because of the Reg. No and how he would admonish boys for calling a Radio a Radio and how it had to be called a “Wireless”.

 

Like lots of Old Boys of CH Tilak still has the “Leaving Present” Works of Shakespeare somewhere with Mr Duncan’s dedication.

 

John explained that he was at school from a young age with Richard Harris prior to CH one of our contemporaries at CH and was Best Man at his Wedding.

 

John also knows John Lyons who used to live in Windermere and John would love to know of his whereabouts and incidentally John Lyons after CH was at St Bees School with Tilak.

 

John and Tilak’s contemporaries at CH were John Cranna whose elder brother is believed to have been at St Bees as well.

 

When Tilak first attended St Bees after CH the Head Boy at St Bees from memory was “Geoffrey Beedham” and generations of CH Pupils may recall firing a 0.22in Gun at the CH School Range called the “Beedham” which was gifted to the School by the said Geoffrey Beedham but I am not sure if this story and background and provenance is true !

 

Tilak’s Brother was called Dharma and at School as was the way with Brothers Tilak was known a Paul Major (shortened to Ma) and his Brother Dharma was Paul Minor (shortened to Mi) John and Tilak are also contemporaries of the three Glaister Brothers ( who also attended St Bees) who were known as Glaister Major Minor and Tertius! Tilak did actually meet up with Tom Glaister (Glaister Minor!) in 2004.

 

Other contemporaries would have been the Shannon Twins who from memory were Day Boys and the Lambert Brothers and the Thompson Brothers and the Whitehead Brothers and the Lyons Brothers and the Lyon Brothers and the Brown Brothers and the Jevon Brothers and the Lowden Brothers and we both recalled Andrew Homes-Higgins and Andrew Hood and David Vigodny and Booth and White and Dalton and Green and Grey and Paul Graham and Nigel Pemberton and Guy Whittaker and Charles Heron and Gary Wolstenholme and Harry Brunskill etc etc etc ! Apologies to those who have not been mentioned and temporarily lost with our memories.

 

Greetings to All.

 

John and Tilak






 


Comments

Andrew Holmes-Higgin said…
How wonderful to see you both again! I of course remember you both so well. Anyone up for an on-location Charney Hall reunion some time? I'm sure through social media we could round up some of our schoolmates. We'd need to plan it well in advance given how geographically scattered we all are. I live in New York now, but would jump on a plane given the chance! Obviously we can't go back to the School House but possibly we could ask the owners of The Lodge and Grove House if we could take a peep inside? And a walk on Hampsfell and along the Prom, a look into the Church, preferably NOT a walk on the Sands, and maybe a walk through the woods up to The Face?

I was in Grange a couple of years ago (my family's from nearby Ulverston) and while so much has changed, so little has changed.
Tilak Paul said…
Hi Andrew Great to hear from you again. John and I remember you well and of course we were in the Main School and Grove House Dormitories together those many years ago. John and I would definitely be up for a Charney Hall Reunion one day . Keep warm in chilly New York. Tilak
john cranna said…
Hi Andrew, John and Tilak.

I'm in all those photos and I suppose the most iconic and memorable is the cricket team photo where we won every single match against schools much bigger than us (school number was 42 and we were beating schools with more than double that I'm sure, eg Rossall and Lawrence House) except one where we drew. I've met up with Nigel Pemberton about two years ago - he's a surveyor and an excellent gardener and wine drinker! I'm all up for a reunion in Grange - have been back a few times and I know over the years Nigel has been back quite a frequently. I'm going to be based in Twickenham for a few days after Xmas - the 26th and 27th so would love to meet up with you - John and Tilak.

John Cranna
Unknown said…
Hi All. Yes John Cranna is correct as we, along with a few other contemporaries from Shrewsbury School, have been meeting and socialising really since the 40th anniversary of us leaving. Do you realise that its 50 years since we left Charney? The cricket team photo has me on the front left and I started the season as a batsman but thanks to John Mathers I converted to a fast bowler for the second half of the term. I continued as an opening bowler through the age groups at Shrewsbury on to the first team and then through Local Cheshire league teams until my late 40s. Do you remember John us bowling at each other on the first team pitch and then Hopkins face when he was told I was opening the bowling at Ramillies Hall where I collected 5 wickets? My wife and I still enjoy walking on Hampsfell and we stay either in Cartmell or Arnside. Would certainly be up for a reunion
Unknown said…
The unknown is Nigel Pemberton!!
Keith Smith said…
Hi Nigel Pemberton, are you related to Michael Pemberton who I featured in ‘Charney Hall Pupils abt.1957’?
I remember meeting his parents who were based at that time, I think, in Tripoli in the Lebanon. When in UK they lived in Ulverston.
He was a good friend of mine and a keen entomologist.
Best wishes
Mark Brown said…
How wonderful to come across this, via my mother who I gather was contacted - thank you - by Keith Smith. There was a minor flurry on another (I think) site a few years ago, but this is much more. Mark Brown here, contemporary of Mathers and Paul and H-H and Cranna and Pemberton et al. I have been in touch within the last 30 years or so (!) with Michael Gray, and tried to contact Stuart Glaister with no luck - hope he's OK. My mother is in the '67 photo - taught science - and I'm relieved to say she was and is Mrs not Miss! Would be great to hear from any of you - presumably on this site there's a secure way of contacting people to give contact details? I'm in the Midlands near Stoke-on-Trent. Astonishingly I think I can identify several on the 67 photograph, but no doubt wouldn't recognise them/you now.
Tilak Paul said…
Morning Mark Good to hear from you read your comments . When I met up with Tom Glaister in 2004 I understand from him that his Brother (Stuart Glaister) was working in a Camera Shop possibly in Bolton but I am not sure if he still is. I know Tom Glaister has now moved to the Lake District area near Coniston. I am also not sure if there is a secure way of contacting people to give contact details. Keith Smith the Blog Administrator has my email details and I am quite happy for him to given them to you and I also have John Cranna and John Mathers details . Best wishes Tilak
Keith Smith said…
Thanks Tilak - Hope that you are well!

Mark Brown please email me and I will forward Tilak’s contact details to you.

Many thanks for your enthusiastic comments

Keith S
Tilak Paul said…
Afternoon Keith and I hope you are well . Belated Happy New Year to you . Thank you for all your wonderful and sterling work for the Blog and all the very Interesting Articles you have been posting Best wishes Tilak
nigel pemberton said…
Hi Keith. My father is Michael but he was at Bolton School in the 1930/40s
Richard Brown (Mi) said…
I have only just discovered this web site, my brother Mark Brown (Ma) having failed to mention it to me. I still live nearby (Bardsea, near Ulverston) and would certainly be "up" for a get-together at the rather sad remains of the school if anyone arranges it.

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